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kevin_kaichou
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kouyoumin 寫:附帶說明, 前文提到的:
"後中聲道的音訊, 必定也會以Matrix方式混入後左與後右聲道"
此動作是要在製作音軌時完成的, 播放時不會進行Matrix編碼

確定是錄製DTS-ES Discrete 6.1後中聲道的音軌的時候,
就以Matrix方式混入LS LR了嗎??
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題外話,小弟剛好有一個POWERDVD音訊顯示的問題...
小弟用PowerDVD 5.0的顯示撥放資訊功能,今天撥放三區"夜魔俠"的D.D.及DTS音軌時所顯示的音訊資訊分別為:
DOLBY DIGITAL SURROUND 5.1

DTS SURROUND 5.1
而小弟撥放三區"獵殺紅色十月DTS版"時所顯示的音訊資訊分別為:
DOLBY DIGITAL 5.1

DTS 5.1

請問有沒有大大知道"夜魔俠"多出"SURROUND"字樣是什意思???和"獵殺紅色十月"有何不同???
一開始小弟認為這是否代表"夜魔俠"音訊支援DTS-ES和D.D.EX,可是之後又拿了幾片含DTS-ES及D.D.EX 旗標信號的片子來放,卻又沒出現SURROUND字樣,真是有點給他搞混了... :-.-:
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Chean想太多了, 那是同樣的東西. 夜魔俠(Dare Devil)沒有DD EX也沒有DTS ES.
kevin_kaichou
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kouyoumin 寫:
kevin_kaichou 寫:的確,都會Matrix一些聲音到環繞聲道
不過,不是全部的聲音.
DTS網站上說的好像是全部呀? 可有更詳細的資訊?
http://www.dtstech.com/media/uploads/pdfs/dts-es2.pdf 寫: To summarize about DTS-ES for the home:
  • The back channel is always matrixed into the LS and RS channels.
  • A discrete back channel can optionally be encoded as well.
  • A DTS-ES 6.1-discrete decoder will play the discrete back channel. It will also subtract the discrete back channel out of the matrixed LS and RS channels, restoring the LS and RS channels as
    independent.
  • Any DTS-ES track, discrete or not, is fully compatible with 6.1-matrix decoders because the matrixed tracks are always present.
  • Any DTS-ES track is fully compatible with 5.1 decoders because the back channel information is matrixed into the LS and RS channels and will thus be heard in and between the LS and RS
    speakers.
請問哪裡有寫後中置全部的聲音,會全部Matrix到環繞聲道
我英文很濫,請糾正,thx
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kouyoumin 寫:附帶說明, 前文提到的:
"後中聲道的音訊, 必定也會以Matrix方式混入後左與後右聲道"
此動作是要在製作音軌時完成的, 播放時不會進行Matrix編碼
如果在製作音軌時,SB的全部音訊都以Matrix方式混入後左與後右聲道
那麼 DTS DISCRETE6.1 還能算是獨立的6.1嗎??
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kevin_kaichou 寫:
kouyoumin 寫:
kevin_kaichou 寫:的確,都會Matrix一些聲音到環繞聲道
不過,不是全部的聲音.
DTS網站上說的好像是全部呀? 可有更詳細的資訊?
http://www.dtstech.com/media/uploads/pdfs/dts-es2.pdf 寫: To summarize about DTS-ES for the home:
  • The back channel is always matrixed into the LS and RS channels.
  • A discrete back channel can optionally be encoded as well.
  • A DTS-ES 6.1-discrete decoder will play the discrete back channel. It will also subtract the discrete back channel out of the matrixed LS and RS channels, restoring the LS and RS channels as
    independent.
  • Any DTS-ES track, discrete or not, is fully compatible with 6.1-matrix decoders because the matrixed tracks are always present.
  • Any DTS-ES track is fully compatible with 5.1 decoders because the back channel information is matrixed into the LS and RS channels and will thus be heard in and between the LS and RS
    speakers.
請問哪裡有寫後中置全部的聲音,會全部Matrix到環繞聲道
我英文很濫,請糾正,thx
The back channel is always matrixed into the LS and RS channels.
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DTS-ES Matrix is actually a 5.1-channel format with the back surround audio channel matrixed into those of the right and left surround. "This cross-channel encoding is referred to as matrix encoding, since the surround back channel is encoded and later decoded (or derived) from those of the surround left and surround right channels." The back surround channel is matrixed in similar fashion as the front center channel is matrixed into the front right and left channels in the Dolby Surround Pro-Logic format. As such, the back surround channel is not discrete and therefore is not a true "6.1" format. DTS-ES Matrix is compatible with THX Surround EX equipment.

DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 is a true 6.1-channel format, as the back surround audio channel is discretely encoded into the DTS bitstream. "The surround back channel has it own data stream and is truly independent from those of the surround left and surround right channels." This format offers better spatialization over the surround channels for complete 360-degree sound localization and surround pans (i.e., movement of sound in the surround channels from one side to another).

The Extended Surround formats are completely backwards-compatible with their 5.1-channel counterparts. That is, THX Surround EX is backwards compatible with Dolby Digital 5.1, and DTS-ES Matrix and DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 are backwards compatible with DTS 5.1. Additionally, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 is backwards compatible with DTS-ES Matrix. In order to hear the matrix Extended Surround formats, you will need a THX Surround EX, DTS-ES Matrix, or a generic "6.1-channel" decoder in your receiver or preamplifier and use the digital audio output of your DVD player. To hear DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, you will need a DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 decoder in your receiver or preamplifier.
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DTS ES Discrete 6.1是紀錄了7條獨立聲軌, 可是為了兼容Matrix及傳統5.1的DTS系統, 它也把後中置以Matrix編碼編入後左及後右. 在Discrete 6.1系統上播放, 它也要把編入後中置從後左及後右刪除, 才有正確的播放效果.
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